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#1 MDZealot

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 06:31 PM

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Welcome to the top based on the revolutionary game, Super Smash Brothers! In Super Smash Brothers, you battle it out with many characters representing Nintendo! Battle throughout various Nintendo stages such as Peach's Castle, Hyrule Temple, and even a Pokemon Stadium! In this action packed game, every character has great potential skill! Which character has the potential to be your character?

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My Smashing

Rawr. As I'm sure a lot of you know, I'm an SSBM freak. I've been playing Super Smash Brothers since it came out for the N64, and have played ever since. On day one, I had always used Fox as a main character without realizing how popular he really was. After going to Melee, I of course used Fox only to realize how different he was. He was much faster, his wavedash made him even faster, and he could preform an infinite Waveshine which is cheap and unbeatable. Noticing that everyone was in love with fox, and he was the most popular character, I figured that he shouldn't be used by me any more since I hate playing mainstream characters. They don't get your name recognized. :(

So, after I decided I needed to make a change, I went to one of my favorite Nintendo characters. Yoshi. Yea, that's right, I was hauling love with a big bad dinosaur. Not only could he lob eggs at you which completely throw you off, but I can eat you and turn you into an egg :P Yoshi is rather powerful, no matter how low in the tier list (see blow) he is. He has strong headbuts, strong kicks, and a wonderful shield. He may not have a third jump, but his second jump makes up for it as it is massive!

Anyways, having Yoshi as my main for quite some time made me rather bored of him. Naturally, I would find a secondary character to play. This character was none other than Link. Reason being is because he's a very popular character amongst the Nintendo circuit, but not so popular in the SSB world. Being quite low on the tier list, I decided to play as him. He is one of the characters that symbolizes Nintendo, so I thought he would be a prime character for me. With a huge amount of projectiles, and a wonderful FAir, I could easily destroy my opponent. Although his wavedash is rendered useless, if you tap the joystick twice in a direction, his speed is upgraded immensly.

So there you have it! My two most active characters are Yoshi, with a secondary of Link. Although I've been playing Link more, my Yoshi is much better making him my prime. What are your favorite characters?

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Tier List

Top Tier:
Fox
Falco

High Tier:
Sheik
Marth
Peach

Middle Tier:
Captain Falcon
Ice Climbers
Samus
Doctor Mario
Jigglypuff
Mario
Ganondorf

Low Tier:
Link
Luigi
Donkey Kong
Roy
Young Link
Pikachu

Bottom Tier:
Yoshi
Zelda
Mr. Game and Watch
Ness
Bowser
Kirby
Pichu
Mewtwo

Note: The Tier list is a list that explains which characters are most used in tournaments. This does not generally mean they are the best characters, but have the most chances of winning a tournament. Hence why they're most used.

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Videos!

Advanced How to Play Guide!

This video consists of how to wavedosh, L Cancel, and other advanced techniques! A must see for all mediocre players!

Part 1
Part 2
Part 3

Note the guide is still under construction, so more parts will be posted.

Due to people making SSB topics, I'll post this now and continue editing it

Yoshi Video Links!

Well, I have a pinned topic on SmashBoards containing a bundle of Yoshi video links of Pros, so I may as well post it here!

= = 1 v 1 = =

Aho (Yoshi) Vs. Chinesah (Fox) v1
Aho (Yoshi) Vs. Chinesah (Fox) v2
Aho (Yoshi) Vs. Chinesah (Fox) v3
Aho (Yoshi) Vs. Kirbster (Kirby)
Back (Yoshi) Vs. Axy (Falco)
Back (Yoshi) Vs. Axy (Samus) v1
Back (Yoshi) Vs. Axy (Samus) v2
Back (Yoshi) Vs. Noe (Fox)
Back (Yoshi) Vs. Pwto (Fox)
Back (Yoshi) Vs. Sley (Ganon)
Back (Yoshi) Vs. TK (Ness)
BETA (Yoshi) Vs. SmashMac (Falco)
BringerOfDeath (Yoshi) Vs. CaptainJack (Sheik)
BringerOfDeath (Yoshi) Vs. Kupo (Sheik) v1
BringerOfDeath (Yoshi) Vs. Kupo (Sheik) v2
BringerOfDeath (Yoshi) Vs. Quetzalcoatl (Peach) v1
BringerOfDeath (Yoshi) Vs. Quetzalcoatl (Peach) v2
Cort (Yoshi) Vs. MoFo (Ness)
Fumi (Yosh) Vs. Koma (Falco) v1
Fumi (Yosh) Vs. Koma (Falco) v2
Fumi (Yosh) Vs. Koma (Falco) v3
Fumi (Yosh) Vs. Koma (Falco) v4
Fumi (Yosh) Vs. Koma (Falco) v5
Fumi (Yosh) Vs. Koma (Falco) v6
Fumi (Yoshi) Vs. Nago (Sheik)
Fumi (Yoshi) Vs. Nessby (Ness) v1
Fumi (Yoshi) Vs. Nessby (Ness) v2
Fumi (Yoshi) Vs.AK (Pikachu) v1
Fumi (Yoshi) Vs. AK (Pikachu) v2
Fumi (Yoshi) Vs. Zeuro (Captain Falcon) v1
Fumi (Yoshi) Vs. Zeruo (Captain Falcon) v2
Fumi (Yoshi) Vs. Zeruo (Captain Falcon) v3
Fumi (Yoshi) Vs. Zeruo (Captain Falcon) v4
Fumi (Yoshi) Vs. Zeruo (Link)
Gabe (Yoshi) Vs. HugS (Samus)
Gabe (Yoshi) Vs. Omar (Sheik) v1
Gabe (Yoshi) Vs. Omar (Sheik) v2
Gabe (Yoshi) Vs. ROFL (Luigi)
Gabe (Yoshi) Vs. Wolf (Falco)
Jdawg (Yoshi) Vs. Shoshone (Captain Falcon)
Jdawg(Yoshi) Vs. Shoshone(Ice Climbers)
Lay (Yoshi) Vs. Stealth Yoshi (Pichu)
Svampen (Yoshi) Vs. CaptainJack (Sheik) v3
Svampen (Yoshi) Vs. CaptainJack (Sheik) v4
Svampen (Yoshi) Vs. DUDE (Samus)
Svampen (Yoshi) Vs. Ek (Fox) v1
Svampen (Yoshi) Vs. Ek (Fox) v2
Svampen (Yoshi) Vs. Ek (Fox)
Svampen (Yoshi) Vs. EK (Marth) v1
Svampen (Yoshi) Vs. EK (Marth) v2
Svampen (Yoshi) Vs. Helios (Captain Falco)
Svampen (Yoshi) Vs. Helios (Fox) v1
Svampen (Yoshi) Vs. Helios (Fox) v2
Svampen (Yoshi) Vs. Smash Alex (Sheik) v1
Svampen (Yoshi) Vs. Smash Alex (Sheik) v2
T-Money (Yoshi) Vs. DuLL_RazeR (Link)
WarriorKnight (Yoshi) Vs. Dire (Pichu)
Yonepii (Yoshi) Vs. Tetsuya (Jigglypuff) v1
Yonepii (Yoshi) Vs. Tetsuya (Jigglypuff) v2
Yonepii (Yoshi) Vs. Tetsuya (Jigglypuff) v3

= = 2 v 2 = =



= = CombO / MiSC = =

The Head, The Egg, The Boot
Yoshi Anthem
Gabe (Yoshi) Vs. Bowser Challenge
FoxandFalco(Yoshi) Combo
Look at Dem' Boots


= = N 64 = =

Sossy (Yoshi) vs. 358 (Fox)

Guides

Bowser Guide by Decadent One
Captain Falcon Guide by AngeloBangelo
Doctor Mario Guide by Cyphus
Donkey Kong Guide by GanondorftheXXVI
Falco Guide by bornfidelity.com
Fox Guide by CunningKitsune
Game & Watch Guide by footnbaseball
Ganondorf Guide by TT
Ice Climbers Guide by UndrDog
Jigglypuff Guide by RPK
Kirby Guide by Alex Cline (-Nitro-)
Competitive Kirby Guide by t!MmY
Link Guide by Lord DHL
Luigi Guide N/A
Mario Guide by maelstrom218
Marth Guide by Crater12
Mewtwo Guide by NJE789
Ness Guide by NESSBOUNDER
Peach Guide Fieari
Pichu Guide by NGCXX
Pikachu Guide by Pictish Freak
Roy Guide by Rebel581
Samus Guide by Aftermath
Yoshi Guide by BringerOfDeath
Young Link Guide by Buzz
Zelda/Sheik Guide by DaRkNeSsOfHeArT

Play SSBM Online with your Game Cube!

Term List by AlphaZealot

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Super Smash Brothers Brawl

So far, the only confirmed characters for Brawl are:

Confirmed
Mario
Link
Pikachu
Kirby
Samus
----
Wario
Zero Suit Samus
Solid Snake
Metaknight
Pit




Semi-confirmed
none


The original 26 characters from Melee are NOT confirmed. The interview with Sakurai merely pointed out what would have happened if he had not joined the team. It is not a confirmation.




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#2 Aqua

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 06:31 PM

Ice Climbers/Samus/Fox.
My most 3 used ones.
Now, I shall pwn you Mikal.
Eat my Ice!

I'm not really good right now, so I'll watch those "advanced move" videos.
I'm going to use Kirby nao.

Edited by Aqua, 27 June 2006 - 06:49 PM.

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 06:49 PM

I like to use DK and Luigi.
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Posted 27 June 2006 - 06:52 PM

Can anyone tell me which skills are the most important?
L Cancel and WaveDashing, what else?

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 06:59 PM

SHFFLING is very important. Watch the Advanced How To Play guide and you'll learn all the essentials for just learning advanced moves.


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Posted 27 June 2006 - 07:01 PM

*goes to read Kirby Guide right now*
I like to use Kirby. I don't know who else to pick so I'm staying with meh Kirbeh.
Ice Climbers are my second, now that i just thought of that. I ALMOST beat my friend with them....Why did Nana have to die?


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Posted 27 June 2006 - 07:07 PM

MDZ, lets just refer to that as shuffling.
And yeah, I'll watch both videos.

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 07:09 PM

my best are
1) link
2) marth
3) dr. mario
4) yoshi
5) zelda/shiek

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 07:17 PM

Well, it's called SHFFL because it's an Acronym. It's a combination of ShortHopFastFallL-Cancel.

It's one deadly combo. Took me a while to master >.>

Dyna, if you don't trust Nana, simply change costumes a few times =P It chances who you use


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Posted 27 June 2006 - 07:39 PM

I have always played as Falco, I prefer fox's moveset with that leeeetle bit extra power behind it.

Fox, obviously, is my number 2.

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 07:51 PM

i use pichu and mewtwo ;__;


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Posted 27 June 2006 - 07:52 PM

Nu! Pichu's at the bottom of the list thing. o_o I like using Pichu..and kill my self endlessly. XD When I use to play the Nintendo 64 version, I used Kirby. ^_^ His throw thingy rocks.
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Posted 27 June 2006 - 08:00 PM

IMO Falco is overrated, anyone can win with him! But why the hell are Pikachu and Pichu on the mediocre list? I can own anyone with any of them anyday. T_T The video was useful, wavedashing seems cool, I still am mad someone did something my smash bros melee cd and now it won't work. D:

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 08:15 PM

Wow cool guide, and I love the video in your sig. Anyways my best characters are as follows:

1) Captain Falcon
2) Yoshi
3) Donkey Kong
4) Ganondorf
5) Samus

Yea thats my list, and im trying to master SHFFLING. I have a lot of room for improvement, but I can easily win against local challengers.

Edited by SSjango, 27 June 2006 - 08:15 PM.


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Posted 27 June 2006 - 08:16 PM

Great attitude, Jango! Keep it up, and you'll become a great smasher. I love it when people are willing to improve. If you have any troubles playing against certain characters, I'll do my best to answer them for ya, Jango. :D

And Kerg, youtube some videos by AK for Pikachu. Pikachu is still a very good character with great potential, but most of the time, the fastest characters will be higher on the tier. Pichu is rather self explanitory. Due to the fact that he hurts himself during his attacks, not many will use him because they see it as a huge downside leading them to their demise.


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Posted 27 June 2006 - 08:44 PM

Ok Cool, so I have some questions on how to become better with Yoshi. The two hardest people for me to fight are:

Fox

-When Advanced players use him I cant seem to win. I cant attack from above because he ends up performing chain combos and juggles and it becomes hard to regain my position. Also, when I try attacking from range (egg bomb) his gun is much faster, and the player will usually end up charging me after attacking. So then the fight becomes a ground based-melee battle, and I usually lose lol :D .

Donkey Kong

-Donkey Kong players are hard for me to beat with yoshi. If I use the egg roll, they use slam. I cant attack from the air because they use the spin move. Also I cant really get close because they usually overpower me.

Thanks for the help! I want to get better with Yoshi, (right now hes my second best), and any tips are much appreciated.

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 08:56 PM

SSBM Awesome game.
Off topic: OMG LIGHTNING OUTSIDE!
ANyways, MDZ great job on making the guide. Rare to see some.
My list goes:

1)Mario
2)Ness
3) Pikachu

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 09:00 PM

We should have a Brawl tournament when it comes out Pfft I'll pwn all you Smash Bros noobs.
My best from the top (the best) the bottom (the worst.)

1st) Falco
2nd)Luigi
3rd Mario
4th) ummm... I guess.....eh

Falco
Before I unlocked Falco I liked Fox and Captain Falcon *ewwww* But then when I got falco I noticed that even though Fox was faster, Falco was Stronger and a disability I had with Fox is that he always camouflages with the background and then I never know where I am (especially in Hyrule) And then I alwayas suicde with Fox so I like Falco better.

Luigi
Luigi has that really sexy side B move I don't know what it's called and those super cool moves even though I'm better then Falco I like Luigi better because when I play with Falco the game is just to easy. So I only use Falco when I'm against pros or some people who I've played with for the first time.

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#19 MDZealot

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 09:37 PM

My offer still stands. I'll play ANYONE in a money match in ANY form of SSB game.

Jango;

When he uses his gun, you need to shorthop and launch the egg that way. You can short hop by gently pressing the X button to a point where it's only about half way down. He will jump about half the distance he normally would, resulting in avoiding the shot, but not completely going out of your way, if that doesn't work, roll towards him when he's shooting then give him a nice little headbutt. When rolling, Fox's lasers get nullified, so you can easily get up towards him. Once you get close to him, combo his love and try hard to get him off the stage. Once he does, start edgegaurding so he can't get back up, and make sure he doesn't get back on =P

And against Donkey Kong, all you have to do is abuse his slow speed. Use a lot of grabs (turn him into an egg :P) to allow you to beat him while he's down, and jump a lot making him use his third jump. Then, since you'd hit the ground first, try and juggle him and throw some eggs at him.


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Posted 27 June 2006 - 09:42 PM

Seriously, thanks a ton MDZ. Against DK I usually never did grabs (maybe bcuz i was indimidated by his size lol). Also, i never tried a shorthop + egg throw, good to know. Lol now im hooked back to ssbm so I'm gonna go spar against some AI with yoshi. Ill try your strategies. Again, thanks a bunch. :D

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Get to level 10 and become an archer
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Get a red viper
Get to level 40
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Get to level 50 and buy an Olympus
Get to level 60
Get to level 70 and become a Ranger




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