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Posted 15 December 2007 - 06:39 PM

Furry, you post too fast. XD

Hm.. I never tried Pink Teddies. I trained the last few levels at Brown ones, because I couldn't really handle the Pinks too well.... if it worked for you, OK then, I'll add it in in the next update, along with a ton of things I said I would put in, but forgot about.

*Apologizes to Aster and Khaos for forgetting* Lol, I'm so forgetful.

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Edited by Artiste, 15 December 2007 - 06:39 PM.

2 How long, O LORD, must I call for help, but you do not listen? Or cry out to you, "Violence!" but you do not save? 3 Why do you make me look at injustice? Why do you tolerate wrong? Destruction and violence are before me; there is strife, and conflict abounds. 4 Therefore the law is paralyzed, and justice never prevails. The wicked hem in the righteous, so that justice is perverted. (5 is the Lord replying to Habakkuk)5 "Look at the nations and watch— and be utterly amazed. For I am going to do something in your days that you would not believe, even if you were told." Habakkuk 1:2-5

4 "See, he is puffed up; his desires are not upright— but the righteous will live by his faith. Habakkuk 2:4


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Posted 15 December 2007 - 06:44 PM

Once you MAX MC, it's sort of a good spot to train if you don't mind dodging a bunch of monsters. mush1k.gif

If you can stand the occasional Toy Trojan, go to... sky terrace 3? I think that's it...

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Posted 15 December 2007 - 06:47 PM

QUOTE(Pinkfurryone @ Dec 15 2007, 07:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Once you MAX MC, it's sort of a good spot to train if you don't mind dodging a bunch of monsters. mush1k.gif

If you can stand the occasional Toy Trojan, go to... sky terrace 3? I think that's it...


I remember when I went there with YoungLink99(He trained with me even though he was like, 12 levels above me mush1a.gif), a 4x Fighter at the time, and he took out the Trojans, and I helped him with the Pink Teddies. It's EXP gain was unparalleled for me at the time. mush1a.gif

2 How long, O LORD, must I call for help, but you do not listen? Or cry out to you, "Violence!" but you do not save? 3 Why do you make me look at injustice? Why do you tolerate wrong? Destruction and violence are before me; there is strife, and conflict abounds. 4 Therefore the law is paralyzed, and justice never prevails. The wicked hem in the righteous, so that justice is perverted. (5 is the Lord replying to Habakkuk)5 "Look at the nations and watch— and be utterly amazed. For I am going to do something in your days that you would not believe, even if you were told." Habakkuk 1:2-5

4 "See, he is puffed up; his desires are not upright— but the righteous will live by his faith. Habakkuk 2:4


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Posted 15 December 2007 - 06:49 PM

It's sort of like that except a little diminished. XD At level 29, Pink Teddies give .08%... Toy Trojans give .1-.12...

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Posted 15 December 2007 - 08:35 PM

I was level 28 before I mroe or less quit my lukless mage but I can tell you that I stayed at Kerning Party Quest period. I went from 23-28 I believe in pq's. Once you get in a good party in one hour you can easily get 50-60%. That means every 4 hours you level twice. Two hours for one level.

I never thought about leaving Victoria for training but don't forget to talk about the common training spots outside of Victoria. For instance, Jr Grupins and the such should be easy to train on at level 35 if you have a good scrolled staff or wand. Normally you would start at level 40 but lukless hit an average of 5 levels above their level, damage wise.

You can ask me questions the same as Pinkfurryone. Not to be mean to you guys but you are young in the world of Maplestory. I have been through alot, I've been through so many things I've forgotten. In only 1 and 1/2 years I think, I have learned about the economy of Maplestory. I have learned what you can do as a mage, I amde a level 35 cleric once.

No, I am not trying to brag but I do remember when Aqua Road wasn't there. I'm not saying I've been on Maple forever but I am saying that if you need advice you can turn to me. I have played all characters and mages are my second favorite class.

In conclusion: you can turn to me with any questions. I have seen alot of maplestory, I have trained in Aqua Road I ahve mobbed Jr Kitties, I have Ludi PQ'ed. I have been to STD's and I have befriended high level players. I have seen alot of this game, and if you want I'll share ym knowledge.

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Posted 15 December 2007 - 09:58 PM

Oops, I was going to list the Jr. Kitties for low-leveled second jobbers(I was gaining EXP madly when I trained there on a REGULAR LUK I/L, at level 32; gained a level there as well, making it 33) who're LUKless, and they could most likely murder any Jr. Kitty without problem. I was unfunded, burning pots like mad, and gaining EXP at the same rate of madness. It was crazy. I've got no time for tonight, but I'll try to update sometime soon.

I've seriously forgotten a lot since I quit for most of the year. I remember I knew a lot. I don't remember specifics, but I remember I thought I had it made. I was cocky. I remember I knew where every class should train at what level, from the sheer amount of reading I did on the subject of MapleStory. >_> Now, that's different. I don't have the time I used to on the computer, and I'm not so addicted to where I don't do anything else, like I was before. I'll just have to remember it as I go.

I will ask you guys questions, and here's a major one: Where would you train from 30-70? Even SOME of those levels' info of where to train will make me eternally grateful. Thanks in advance!
2 How long, O LORD, must I call for help, but you do not listen? Or cry out to you, "Violence!" but you do not save? 3 Why do you make me look at injustice? Why do you tolerate wrong? Destruction and violence are before me; there is strife, and conflict abounds. 4 Therefore the law is paralyzed, and justice never prevails. The wicked hem in the righteous, so that justice is perverted. (5 is the Lord replying to Habakkuk)5 "Look at the nations and watch— and be utterly amazed. For I am going to do something in your days that you would not believe, even if you were told." Habakkuk 1:2-5

4 "See, he is puffed up; his desires are not upright— but the righteous will live by his faith. Habakkuk 2:4


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Posted 15 December 2007 - 10:40 PM

30-40: Stone masks&Wood masks in perion.
40-50: Retz or Kitties.
50-60: Retz or Straw target dummies.
60-70: FoG or Gryphons.
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Posted 16 December 2007 - 02:26 AM

Oh, Paper Lanterns are good at 45, especially with a party (faster killing = faster EXP)
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Posted 28 December 2007 - 12:23 PM

QUOTE(Shuck @ Dec 16 2007, 03:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh, Paper Lanterns are good at 45, especially with a party (faster killing = faster EXP)


Paper Lanterns? o_O Doesn't ring a bell. Refresher, plocks. =D

@ iEatNewbie, sounds good. While I was in my low 3x's on Wand(*coughIstillamcough* Temporary quit for him), quite a few of those weren't in the game yet. =P That means with all of these new monsters, I could probably make it out of those blasted levels. Once I max Cold Beam, I have a feeling I would want to play him a lot more. >_> The Masks had JUST come out as I quit, and I had tried them. They were terrific. I left that place alone, however, because it was literally INFESTED with hackers. mush1j.gif

Edit: I edited Khaos's info into the guide about the EQ, Aster's recommendation about the Jr. Kitties, and iEatNewbie's training spots. Also, Aster's build where you put just enough MC to kill monsters.



OK... I'm going to discontinue this guide until I start playing my Magician(s) again, because I kinda got sick of playing only Magicians... I'm now playing my DEXLess claw Rogue. :3 Also because I haven't updated this guide in forever, and I can't bring myself to do so. >:(

See you guys once I get bored of Eroding.... :3
2 How long, O LORD, must I call for help, but you do not listen? Or cry out to you, "Violence!" but you do not save? 3 Why do you make me look at injustice? Why do you tolerate wrong? Destruction and violence are before me; there is strife, and conflict abounds. 4 Therefore the law is paralyzed, and justice never prevails. The wicked hem in the righteous, so that justice is perverted. (5 is the Lord replying to Habakkuk)5 "Look at the nations and watch— and be utterly amazed. For I am going to do something in your days that you would not believe, even if you were told." Habakkuk 1:2-5

4 "See, he is puffed up; his desires are not upright— but the righteous will live by his faith. Habakkuk 2:4


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Posted 30 December 2007 - 09:29 AM

QUOTE(daddyJ4 @ Dec 15 2007, 06:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was level 28 before I mroe or less quit my lukless mage but I can tell you that I stayed at Kerning Party Quest period. I went from 23-28 I believe in pq's. Once you get in a good party in one hour you can easily get 50-60%. That means every 4 hours you level twice. Two hours for one level.

I never thought about leaving Victoria for training but don't forget to talk about the common training spots outside of Victoria. For instance, Jr Grupins and the such should be easy to train on at level 35 if you have a good scrolled staff or wand. Normally you would start at level 40 but lukless hit an average of 5 levels above their level, damage wise.

You can ask me questions the same as Pinkfurryone. Not to be mean to you guys but you are young in the world of Maplestory. I have been through alot, I've been through so many things I've forgotten. In only 1 and 1/2 years I think, I have learned about the economy of Maplestory. I have learned what you can do as a mage, I amde a level 35 cleric once.

No, I am not trying to brag but I do remember when Aqua Road wasn't there. I'm not saying I've been on Maple forever but I am saying that if you need advice you can turn to me. I have played all characters and mages are my second favorite class.

In conclusion: you can turn to me with any questions. I have seen alot of maplestory, I have trained in Aqua Road I ahve mobbed Jr Kitties, I have Ludi PQ'ed. I have been to STD's and I have befriended high level players. I have seen alot of this game, and if you want I'll share ym knowledge.

NOT BRAGGING, I REPEAT, I AM YOUNG TO THIS GAME AS WELL I AM JSUT TRYING TO SHOW ARTISTE THAT I AM THERE FOR HIM. DONE.

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Posted 30 December 2007 - 12:34 PM

It's probably one of the best guides I've seen, very detailed and still unfinished 0_o.

If you need any help (2nd + 3rd job especially), just ask. I have a 40 page I/L Mage Question thread at the moment =P.
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Posted 30 December 2007 - 02:10 PM

Thanks a lot, Spoinky. :3 You know, when I started this guide, I only wanted it to be informative and helpful, and it quickly ascended to a guide much liked by a lot of people, to my great astonishment. I really might start editing it again, now that I have someone for first job, second, and third... Fourth isn't out yet, so I don't need to worry about it yet.

Since I have so many people to help me, I'd like to impose these questions: Where did you train? What items and potions did you need for training at certain levels? Could you get me screen shots with skills? How much damage you do? I realize it's a lot to ask, but this is the only way I'd really get anything done. :] I'd also like to know which equips are good for which level, how much the average I/L would need to invest, and other minute things like that, to try and make this guide as great as it could be.

I'll really appreciate it if you guys can help in ANY way. :3
2 How long, O LORD, must I call for help, but you do not listen? Or cry out to you, "Violence!" but you do not save? 3 Why do you make me look at injustice? Why do you tolerate wrong? Destruction and violence are before me; there is strife, and conflict abounds. 4 Therefore the law is paralyzed, and justice never prevails. The wicked hem in the righteous, so that justice is perverted. (5 is the Lord replying to Habakkuk)5 "Look at the nations and watch— and be utterly amazed. For I am going to do something in your days that you would not believe, even if you were told." Habakkuk 1:2-5

4 "See, he is puffed up; his desires are not upright— but the righteous will live by his faith. Habakkuk 2:4


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Posted 04 January 2008 - 10:56 AM

Training wise: From about about lvl 35-40 I stayed at Fire Boars and then moved onto Jr Cellions/Jr Lioners/Sakuras and Ludi PQ till lvl 50. Then at 50 you can go to Cellions/Lioners and Fire Drakes at 55. From then on it was Retz/Gryphons all the way.

With new training spots, from 45-55 you can train at Paper Lantern Ghosts as they're weak to ice and from 60-80 you can go to Hoodoos/Voodoos. I don't know much about the PQs as I was already past them when they came out =P, but I've heard they're great exp.

From lvl 70-75 training is 'hell'. You stay at the same spots but much slower. At 75 (assuming you have 16 IS) you can go to DTs or Wolf Spiders till 85. Then move on to Bains at the Wan Wan Spa of Hell (or the armoury if it gets released) and then it's Squids/Vikings/Gobies till new areas get released =P. Some mages go to Himes at 100+ as well but they're not as much needed as other classes.

I'll try and get some screenies later =P but my equips are pretty bad (all unscrolled). Anything specific?
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Posted 05 January 2008 - 08:21 AM

It doesn't matter if they're un-scrolled. xD I don't have any scrolled items either. Maybe some screens of you just using your skills and stuff. That'd be amazingly helpful. If only I had a Mage, then I wouldn't have to put you through the trouble. xD

Thanks so much! =D
2 How long, O LORD, must I call for help, but you do not listen? Or cry out to you, "Violence!" but you do not save? 3 Why do you make me look at injustice? Why do you tolerate wrong? Destruction and violence are before me; there is strife, and conflict abounds. 4 Therefore the law is paralyzed, and justice never prevails. The wicked hem in the righteous, so that justice is perverted. (5 is the Lord replying to Habakkuk)5 "Look at the nations and watch— and be utterly amazed. For I am going to do something in your days that you would not believe, even if you were told." Habakkuk 1:2-5

4 "See, he is puffed up; his desires are not upright— but the righteous will live by his faith. Habakkuk 2:4


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Posted 05 January 2008 - 10:36 AM

Well, I still have all my old equips, and for the most part, they were all unscrolled. It's only since late 5x that I tried scrolling anything (epic phail on my Cromi).

These are the equips of a Regular Luk Female I/L (in eMS at that mush1k.gif)

From 28-38 I stuck with my Green Fairy Top and Skirt, Green Jester (quest reward) and only had two weapons: Mithril Wand, followed by Petal Staff (28 and 35 respectively). I have a feeling I had White/Blue Magicshoes (quest reward), as I couldn't get my hands on a pair of Black. I remember those being my main shoes until 40. Someone made a Blue Lutia for me, so I didn't upgrade it to Black. I found I was levelling so fast it didn't matter. I think at this point I still had my Leaf Earrings. I'd used an Earring MP scroll on them. I was even still wearing my Raggedy Cape. And I made sure I went straight from Stolen Fence to Esther Shield. Probably saved myself a lot of mesos that way. To start with I could only afford a +1 Int Esther, which was fine.


From Lv 38/40-48/50 I had:
Red Moonlight (quest reward), Brown Guilitan (quest reward), Dark Moonshoes, Blue Noel (quest reward). Yes, as you can see, a lot of the good (i.e. +Int) mage armour can easily be got through quests. I made a Dark Arten (bought a Red Arten from the FM and upgraded it) which gave me +3 Int, something that's beaten at Lv 50 by only a Dark Pennance. I was willing to forgo the extra MP from a Dark Pennance at the time, so in theory one would be able to keep a Dark Arten until Lv 60+. With hats I decided to forgo a Matty as a hat for all of 5 levels with little difference in stats seemed silly.

Well, for now. I was still using the Petal Staff (it was scrolled with one 60% and lent to me by Drychiolaeth) and as I recall borrowed and unscrolled Arc Staff for 3 levels, then made and scrolled my Cromi at 48. At this point, I had pretty much everything to make a Cromi with already, so it wasn't a great leap. If scrolled well, they can last for ages. Unfortunately, mine was 3/7 success... It's still lurking on a mule somewhere. I wouldn't recommend jumping from Petal Staff to Fairy Wand to Circle-Winded Staff to Hall Staff etc. The difference is slight so it's best to pick a weapon that you can afford, is good and you feel comfortable sticking with for several levels. Some people stick with just staves, some go all wand. Personally I prefer the look of wands but this becomes less important the higher level you are.

With Icarus Capes, I was lucky and had a +15 Avoid one, which I kept and scrolled ending up with +20MP on it. Which suits me fine. It's a handy mage cape with high avoid. It lasted me over 20 levels.

Earring-wise, I had Blue Moon Earrings. I decked them out with 100% Earring scrolls.

At 48/50, my set up was like this:
Cromi (3/7 success with 60%s) (made)
Aqua Golden Circlet (bought)
Orange Calaf (bought)
Dark Arten (bought, then upgraded)
Green Gold-Winded Shoes (bought)

Around this time we start to stop getting equips from quests. This means we've got to either farm monsters for what we want, or buy from other players. The equips I had all gave the max Int for my level. All were unscrolled (apart from my failure Cromi). One day I got bored and made a Dark Pennance. Aside from that, I kept the same set up for 8/10 levels.

I made a Thorns which I used unscrolled (from what I recall) until 58 when I equipped an Evil Taylor (as it's called in eMS) that I found cheap in the FM. Not wanting to botch scroll it, and figuring I'd be finished with it soon, I scrolled it with cheap 100% Wand MA scrolls. Gave me the same MA as an average Evil Wings.

At 50 I equipped my Skull Earrings (quest reward) which again, I scrolled with 100% Earring MA scrolls.

58/60+

My next (and current) set of equips now looks like this:



The two pairs of shoes? Simple really. The Orange Goldrunners I bought pre-scrolled, but sometimes I need the extra jump boost so my old Green Gold-Winded shoes are still useful. As I don't really care about the amount of Luk I have (aside from my base Luk still being +3 of my level), there's not a whole lot of difference between the shoes. I tend to wear my Goldrunners while training and my Gold-Winded for travelling from one place to the next. Once I have Max Tele, they'll be almost obselete.

I'm still using a Dark Pennance? Yes, it has better stats than a Dark Manute due to the simple fact that I scrolled it because I wanted to use a scoll and not blow up my Dark Manute. Result being I'm still using a Lv 50 glove, which is better stats than a Lv 60 one! The only reason I scrolled my Seraphis was because a guildie could replace it for me easily if it went bang. I was willing to blow up my Lv 50 glove, but not a Dark Manute that took me ages to find! The result is, I can now sell my Dark Manute and not have to worry about taking up another slot on my mule mush1o.gif

My +2 Int Esther Shield... I recommend to any mage that once you're comfortably off meso-wise to invest in one of these. According to Hidden-Street, natural +3 Int Esther Shields are possible. Now, I've never seen one of them, and considering how much this +2 Int set me back, I can only imagine how much a +3 would cost. In any case, +2 Int seems common enough to be possible, and while it's pricey, it WILL last the rest of my Mapling life (with my mage at least!)


In the earlier levels, there's really no need to equip-hop so often. It's certainly a waste of money around the 3x-5x levels where so many pieces of equipment can be obtained through quests, requiring little more than... well, killing things and making more mesos.

In later levels (5x and above) mage equips are costly, yet frequent trips around the FM can prove fruitful. I found a VERY cheap above avg Dark Infinitum Circlet a week or so ago, which I now have stashed away for Lv 70. If you have the spare cash on you and see something cheap that will benefit you later on, by all means GRAB IT! I now have a full set of Lv 70 equips on my mule waiting, and even some parts for Lv 8x and above. Simply because I've spotted bargains and will be saving myself money in future. As I/Ls have one of the highest earning potentials, we can afford to treat ourselves every once in a while with a nice piece of equipment, or a scroll for something. Be warned, although 30% and 70% scrolls look lovely, they CAN blow things up. If you really don't want to lose a certain weapon/piece or armour, make sure you only usde 10%, 60% or 100% scrolls. Certainly at high levels it's tempting to make a godly weapon, but it's all to waste when it goes bang in your hands and you have to start from scratch. As you can see from my equips, I manage ok with what I have. I have no plans to scroll anything further, certainly not until I get my next weapon (which will most likely be a Dark Ritual or Phoenix Wand).

Other tips on saving money on equips are making sure that any mage guildies/buddies are aware of what level you are and know that you're looking to borrow/buy new equips. Quite a few weapons/equips were lent to me by guildies who either didn't need the items any more, or had drops that they were going to NPC otherwise. Don't let people overpricing in the FM put you off. ALWAYS ask around before buying anything that seems overpriced to you. For example, my first Esther Shield I bought for 800k. I KNEW it was a bargain as I'd previously seen them sold for 1mil+. They've now dropped down to about 800k, so I won't make any money on what I bought, but I saved mesos at the time. So yes, market awareness is the key. Ask guidies/buddies how much they paid for something (provided it's not all that long ago) before commiting yourelf to blowing everything you earned at Sakuras or what you made from those Steelies you found at Red Drakes.


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Posted 05 January 2008 - 07:50 PM

dolleyes.gif Wow... that was extraordinarily informative, Bellatrixa! >:D *Will quote the entire thing the next time he edits teh guide, along with Spoinky's info*

Thanks, guys! mush1a.gif
2 How long, O LORD, must I call for help, but you do not listen? Or cry out to you, "Violence!" but you do not save? 3 Why do you make me look at injustice? Why do you tolerate wrong? Destruction and violence are before me; there is strife, and conflict abounds. 4 Therefore the law is paralyzed, and justice never prevails. The wicked hem in the righteous, so that justice is perverted. (5 is the Lord replying to Habakkuk)5 "Look at the nations and watch— and be utterly amazed. For I am going to do something in your days that you would not believe, even if you were told." Habakkuk 1:2-5

4 "See, he is puffed up; his desires are not upright— but the righteous will live by his faith. Habakkuk 2:4


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Posted 11 January 2008 - 02:27 PM

I COME BEARING GOOD TRAINING UNTIL YOU GET Level 15 Cold Beam. (for regluk)

Hunting Ground in the Deep Forest II. It has Lupins, Curse Eyes, and Horny Mushrooms. That and Leattys are good training.

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Posted 11 January 2008 - 05:19 PM

Thanks, Furry.

Alrighty... I tried to update the guide some time ago, but the MTWiki's blasted server was going wonky on me, and it wouldn't take the massive(ish) update I put in. madmush42vx.gif

I'll try and do it either tonight or tomorrow.
2 How long, O LORD, must I call for help, but you do not listen? Or cry out to you, "Violence!" but you do not save? 3 Why do you make me look at injustice? Why do you tolerate wrong? Destruction and violence are before me; there is strife, and conflict abounds. 4 Therefore the law is paralyzed, and justice never prevails. The wicked hem in the righteous, so that justice is perverted. (5 is the Lord replying to Habakkuk)5 "Look at the nations and watch— and be utterly amazed. For I am going to do something in your days that you would not believe, even if you were told." Habakkuk 1:2-5

4 "See, he is puffed up; his desires are not upright— but the righteous will live by his faith. Habakkuk 2:4


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#59 Spoinky

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Posted 13 January 2008 - 01:50 AM

Sorry, forgot completely about saying I'd give you screenies of skills =P. Saw the thread on the ship xD. They're cropped kinda badly and all in different sizes, so you might need to change a bit.



Ok, imageshack is screwing up for me so click on the image and click '<<prev' or 'next>>'

The first 3 screenies are all composition (in order), then Ice Strike, Thunder Spear and 2 screenies of booster.
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#60 Artiste

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Posted 13 January 2008 - 08:45 AM

Awesome... >:D Those make me happy. :3 Thanks so much, Spoinky! mush1a.gif
2 How long, O LORD, must I call for help, but you do not listen? Or cry out to you, "Violence!" but you do not save? 3 Why do you make me look at injustice? Why do you tolerate wrong? Destruction and violence are before me; there is strife, and conflict abounds. 4 Therefore the law is paralyzed, and justice never prevails. The wicked hem in the righteous, so that justice is perverted. (5 is the Lord replying to Habakkuk)5 "Look at the nations and watch— and be utterly amazed. For I am going to do something in your days that you would not believe, even if you were told." Habakkuk 1:2-5

4 "See, he is puffed up; his desires are not upright— but the righteous will live by his faith. Habakkuk 2:4


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