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#41 Winter Flower

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Posted 28 November 2007 - 04:18 PM

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The script would need to be modified quite a bit, as it is a dumper right now, not a reader. The only thing useful for us in there would be the .wz decryption code.


Well yeah, that's really the only thing you should be looking for in the script, if anything. Writing code to save files and "glue" everything together should be the easy part.

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Currently frustrated with my lack of progress in VB.NET.


I despise VB, I think it's such a crappy language ._.
Then again, that might just be my bias in favor of C-like syntax mush1k.gif
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Posted 29 November 2007 - 10:00 AM

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Currently frustrated with my lack of progress in VB.NET.


I despise VB, I think it's such a crappy language ._.
Then again, that might just be my bias in favor of C-like syntax mush1k.gif

I agree.
Delphi is going great mush1n.gif


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Posted 29 November 2007 - 10:38 AM

I never tried Delphi. What kind of programs do you make with it?
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Posted 29 November 2007 - 11:15 AM

Cheat Engine is written in Delphi. I've heard of a couple other programs too, and I think a lot of viruses are written in Delphi too.
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Posted 29 November 2007 - 12:24 PM

Viruses are like really lame. I've even stumbled accross a video in youtube teaching you how to write 5-line bat file virus with notepad, so that goes to show how easy it is to be a cute moron mush1k.gif

I remember when my crazy cousin decided that she wanted to be a hacker and was going around talking smack, until the real hackers got ticked off and bsod'ed her computer lol >_<
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Posted 03 December 2007 - 07:50 AM

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Cheat Engine is written in Delphi. I've heard of a couple other programs too, and I think a lot of viruses are written in Delphi too.

Nice example? o.O
I don't make that kind of stuff. Now it's only stuff I don't use, but I make them to learn.


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Posted 03 December 2007 - 08:54 AM

I dunno, I always prefer conventional languages as opposed to the more obscure ones. C/C++ are languages of choice, you can do pretty much anything with them.
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Posted 03 December 2007 - 09:44 AM

Yeah they are popular languages (well maybe not so much for C anymore), but there's a bunch of things about them that bug me, like not being able to do "string1" + "string2", or the lack of automatic garbage collection =/

Having started with scripted languages, I still kinda like syntatic sugar (like foreach loops, dynamic arrays and built-in string concatenation) that these languages don't have mush1k.gif
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Posted 03 December 2007 - 10:10 AM

Yeah, which is why C# seems to be quite popular now. I dunno though, I'm not a fan of VM based languages and programs. Java is thumbsdown.gif.
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Posted 03 December 2007 - 12:22 PM

Hmm C# is ok-ish. At least their libraries are somewhat comprehensive. Getting Java to say hello world, on the other hand, has got to be the most painful programming experience I've had in my life (and it doesn't get much simpler after that) >_>;

But yeah, VMs are one of the reasons I kinda dislike those languages, since distributing a VM-based program is basically the same as giving out your proprietary source code, not to mention the inherent slowness. I think Mono compiles C# into binary form, but you won't get all the stuff that .NET provides.

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Posted 03 December 2007 - 12:26 PM

JIT compiles into binary, but it's a runtime compilation process. thumbsdown.gif
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Posted 03 December 2007 - 03:06 PM

Well JIT isn't the big problem, really. Bytecode can be precompiled and runtime compilation certainly beats interpreting by a mile. The thing is that both C# and Java have support for reflection among other things that just make their frameworks slower than inline-i-dont-care-if-you-want-to-decompile-my-code C.
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Posted 03 December 2007 - 07:34 PM

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Java is thumbsdown.gif


I'm taking Java and HTML right now.. And I agree. (Feels incompetent. Jit? What?)

Do you guys learn this at school or on your own time??

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Posted 03 December 2007 - 10:15 PM

My own time. mush1k.gif Winter Flower is a professional though.

I'm still very much into PHP, and I think I'll stick there until I have time to figure out how to code a game. mush1a.gif
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Posted 04 December 2007 - 10:37 AM

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I'm taking Java and HTML right now.. And I agree. (Feels incompetent. Jit? What?)

Do you guys learn this at school or on your own time??


Oops, I get carried away sometimes, sorry mush1k.gif
JIT means just-in-time (compiler), meaning that code gets compiled from an intermediate form (called bytecode) when you run the program, as opposed to compiling from source code in advance.

I've been learning about programming on my own time, though I got better at some stuff (namely javascript and CSS) because of my job. I used to be more of a designer but I'm slowly moving into programming, since it's something I'm going to need if I really want to make a game.

Making a game for me is kinda like how people want to plant a tree and write a book, and it's something I've wanted to do ever since I was a kid watching my brothers play mario :3
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Posted 06 December 2007 - 02:53 PM

I'm kinda learning them all. xD I still usually use references for when I do start coding stuff. Mostly because I've learned a bit of Php, a good bit of HTML, and Flash programming (and making graphics for flash with Macromedia Flash) (Kinda). xD But I have a book that might help me learn about ASP.NET, PHP, mySQL and some other things for using databases and other things. My Aunt wants me to make a site that sells stuff, or something, and it'd have to make database queries and other things. madmush42vx.gif Not looking forward to that. xP
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Posted 08 December 2007 - 09:34 AM

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My Aunt wants me to make a site that sells stuff, or something, and it'd have to make database queries and other things. madmush42vx.gif Not looking forward to that. xP

That's not too hard, but the security is the hardest. weirdface7ut.gif

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Posted 08 December 2007 - 10:04 AM

Yeah, watch out for security holes. If you don't validate user input, you're vulnerable to SQL injection, which can compromise the site's security a lot.
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Posted 09 December 2007 - 08:19 PM

You might as well get a Yahoo merchant account or something like that. OSCommerce is a free option you could try too. It takes a fraction of the time to setup a pre-built site compared to creating an e-commerce site from scratch and you don't have to worry about security.

Personally I think e-commerce is not a great thing to get into, because there's a lot of risk and not much money to be made from it, since everyone is doing it.
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Posted 09 December 2007 - 10:03 PM

I want to learn some C to hack Rockbox. It seems like a nice thing to mess around with.
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