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#21 xSin

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Posted 12 August 2007 - 11:18 PM

QUOTE(Lolergasm @ Aug 13 2007, 01:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, Greg.
With me as a lucky charm. Dan's 30%s NEVER fail. :[

Thats how he makes all these godly mambas and gets rich.

But FM scanning is good too.
You and your good deals and that 43 atk mamba for 10m(?).
Easy money.

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#22 Khaos

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Posted 13 August 2007 - 12:18 AM

I liked the idea that where a mix of a low dex and normal dex build will be good in the long run, when the level 110 claws come out. Very detailed, and I enjoyed reading it. If it were a paper for school, you get a A+.

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Posted 13 August 2007 - 12:55 AM

Just in time Dan, too bad I'm only level 19-20 >-> atm...

Question: How many stars do you use in your inventory?
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Posted 13 August 2007 - 02:22 AM

Love the guide, it's extremely helpful. The section about Hermit SP helps me a lot, since I'm nearing level 70. It also inspires me to try to scroll myself a Scarab for level 70. But I'm kind of poor... don't know if that'll work out... >_>

Anyway. I love all the details you included, very simple to read and understand yet informative. The pictures make it more fun to read and understand, too. Especially the pictures showing the skills, very nice touch.

Tiny suggestion: Maybe you could recommend which stars to use, and how many you should have? Though, I can see how those things could be mostly based on opinions.

All in all, I'm not a guide-pro, but I think it's very professional. Good work. :3

(Off-topic: Your character looks so cute! Black Metro hair... floating duckies... the bubbles. mush1a.gif)

EDIT: Also, I noticed that you have Gryphons listed at Mountain Slopes, but Mountain Slopes are Electrophants and I.AM.ROBOTS. Am I misunderstanding something? Or did you mean Mountain Cliffs?

8/20

Edited by KirstieCasey, 13 August 2007 - 02:29 AM.


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Posted 13 August 2007 - 06:36 AM

i luv ur guide! its useful for my sin mush1z.gif

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Posted 13 August 2007 - 01:07 PM

Simply one of the best guides I have ever seen.

The pics of all the skills and they're descriptions, the training spots for damage instead of lvl and analysis of the different thieves and different sins. SIMPLEH SUPERB!!!

Will be very useful for me and definitely many other sins. Keep it up!

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Posted 13 August 2007 - 01:12 PM

QUOTE(Khaos @ Aug 13 2007, 02:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I liked the idea that where a mix of a low dex and normal dex build will be good in the long run, when the level 110 claws come out. Very detailed, and I enjoyed reading it. If it were a paper for school, you get a A+.

Thanks mush1n.gif I still think there's room for improvement, though.

QUOTE(Poet @ Aug 13 2007, 02:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just in time Dan, too bad I'm only level 19-20 >-> atm...

Question: How many stars do you use in your inventory?

16 sets.

QUOTE(KirstieCasey @ Aug 13 2007, 04:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Love the guide, it's extremely helpful. The section about Hermit SP helps me a lot, since I'm nearing level 70. It also inspires me to try to scroll myself a Scarab for level 70. But I'm kind of poor... don't know if that'll work out... >_>

Anyway. I love all the details you included, very simple to read and understand yet informative. The pictures make it more fun to read and understand, too. Especially the pictures showing the skills, very nice touch.

Tiny suggestion: Maybe you could recommend which stars to use, and how many you should have? Though, I can see how those things could be mostly based on opinions.

All in all, I'm not a guide-pro, but I think it's very professional. Good work. :3

(Off-topic: Your character looks so cute! Black Metro hair... floating duckies... the bubbles. mush1a.gif)

EDIT: Also, I noticed that you have Gryphons listed at Mountain Slopes, but Mountain Slopes are Electrophants and I.AM.ROBOTS. Am I misunderstanding something? Or did you mean Mountain Cliffs?

8/20

Alright, I'll put that in. Thanks for the suggestion. And I'm not too sure about the names of the new maps, so yeah, it might be wrong @_@. I'll go change it now mush1k.gif

QUOTE(BengaliDon @ Aug 13 2007, 08:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i luv ur guide! its useful for my sin mush1z.gif

Thanks mush1a.gif

QUOTE(intense @ Aug 13 2007, 03:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Simply one of the best guides I have ever seen.

The pics of all the skills and they're descriptions, the training spots for damage instead of lvl and analysis of the different thieves and different sins. SIMPLEH SUPERB!!!

Will be very useful for me and definitely many other sins. Keep it up!

*You should get someone to sticky this!*

Thanks, I will. I'll keep trying to improve it.

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Posted 13 August 2007 - 06:50 PM

Wow, great guide Daniel. I definitely enjoyed reading this. I'd say that every guides should have pictures. It makes it more 'fine' and colorful. I learned a few things as well. And I'm also going to follow your SP build for Hermit when I hit level 70, which is very soon.

Thanks for writing this. =D

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Posted 14 August 2007 - 01:53 AM

It's a well organized guide and I like how you added pictures for certain things to make it easier to recognize and how you explained exactly where to go to do the job avancements.

After a while of skimming through there're some things I think you should mention;

I only skimmed through it, so maybe you did mention these but just incase:

- How much Luk is equivalent to 1 weapon attack. I unequiped and re-equipped my 2 atk glove and knowticed my atk range went up by 15 points when I equipped it. So I guess 6 - 7 luk is 1 weapon atk

- What stars are recommended for certain levels. When I was an assassin I thought I had to save up 600k for icicles in my 30's when assasins at that level who don't have another high level character usually used mokbis.

Although it can be looked up, if you have the time, you should mention which monsters drop which stars and perhaps even their average prices in the FM for the different world servers.

edit: Spelling & grammar mistakes

Edited by Tara, 14 August 2007 - 01:58 AM.

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Posted 14 August 2007 - 05:37 AM

QUOTE(Roxas @ Aug 13 2007, 08:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wow, great guide Daniel. I definitely enjoyed reading this. I'd say that every guides should have pictures. It makes it more 'fine' and colorful. I learned a few things as well. And I'm also going to follow your SP build for Hermit when I hit level 70, which is very soon.

Thanks for writing this. =D

No problem, and thanks mush1a.gif

QUOTE(Tara @ Aug 14 2007, 03:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's a well organized guide and I like how you added pictures for certain things to make it easier to recognize and how you explained exactly where to go to do the job avancements.

After a while of skimming through there're some things I think you should mention;

I only skimmed through it, so maybe you did mention these but just incase:

- How much Luk is equivalent to 1 weapon attack. I unequiped and re-equipped my 2 atk glove and knowticed my atk range went up by 15 points when I equipped it. So I guess 6 - 7 luk is 1 weapon atk

- What stars are recommended for certain levels. When I was an assassin I thought I had to save up 600k for icicles in my 30's when assasins at that level who don't have another high level character usually used mokbis.

Although it can be looked up, if you have the time, you should mention which monsters drop which stars and perhaps even their average prices in the FM for the different world servers.

edit: Spelling & grammar mistakes

Well, like I said (I think), Luk and Watk depend on each other. And how much luk is equal to 1 watk changes at different levels. At lower levels it's around I think 3 luk = 1 watk and at higher levels 5 luk = 1 watk. I'll try to include that later.

You can't really recommend what stars for any level because everyone doesn't have the same amount of money that they can spend. If you have more money, you can get better stars. If you don't, you can't. Simple as that.

I'll try to put in the drops later, but the average prices for each server would be a hassle to keep up and will be outdated. I don't wish to give the wrong prices.


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Posted 14 August 2007 - 06:35 AM

To find out how much LUK 1 weapon ATT equals, don't you have to take your total LUK and divide it with your total weapon ATT? I think I read that somewhere; and when I try it now, it does make sense.
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Posted 14 August 2007 - 11:33 AM

great guide
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Posted 14 August 2007 - 02:31 PM

QUOTE(Roxas @ Aug 14 2007, 08:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
To find out how much LUK 1 weapon ATT equals, don't you have to take your total LUK and divide it with your total weapon ATT? I think I read that somewhere; and when I try it now, it does make sense.

I'm not sure, I'll get back to you on that.

QUOTE(oshimoto @ Aug 14 2007, 01:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
great guide

Thanks.

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Posted 14 August 2007 - 02:55 PM

O___O you stayed up till 5 a.m. making this guide. LOL

If I ever make a sin/hermit , I`ll be sure to use your guide Daniel >:]

& Good job ^^

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Posted 14 August 2007 - 03:49 PM

QUOTE(Roxas @ Aug 14 2007, 07:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
To find out how much LUK 1 weapon ATT equals, don't you have to take your total LUK and divide it with your total weapon ATT? I think I read that somewhere; and when I try it now, it does make sense.

I can back this up that it works with DEX for archers.

Could very well work for LUK with Thieves.
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Posted 14 August 2007 - 04:32 PM

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O___O you stayed up till 5 a.m. making this guide. LOL

If I ever make a sin/hermit , I`ll be sure to use your guide Daniel >:]

& Good job ^^

Yes, because you ditched me and I was boredd xD

&you can't even train your own bandit, I doubt you'd make it to a hermit ;] But, thanks mush1a.gif

QUOTE(Nayr Shadow @ Aug 14 2007, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Roxas @ Aug 14 2007, 07:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
To find out how much LUK 1 weapon ATT equals, don't you have to take your total LUK and divide it with your total weapon ATT? I think I read that somewhere; and when I try it now, it does make sense.

I can back this up that it works with DEX for archers.

Could very well work for LUK with Thieves.

Alright thanks. And I just tested it out for myself. So far, it seems to work. I'll ask other people as well. Once it's confirmed, I'll add that in.

Edited by xSin, 14 August 2007 - 04:34 PM.


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Posted 15 August 2007 - 08:56 PM

Someone should sticky this. *looks for a MOD * ;;

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Posted 15 August 2007 - 10:06 PM

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Someone should sticky this. *looks for a MOD * ;;

It's still in progress :]

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Posted 16 August 2007 - 05:20 PM

Um, how come the training levels are like 550?

I thought you only could get to level 200 O.o

And at 200 i don't think you will be training at pigs lol.

If you could make a legend on each number or something i would love it =]
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Posted 16 August 2007 - 07:26 PM

QUOTE(DAVECHAPPELL2 @ Aug 16 2007, 07:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Um, how come the training levels are like 550?

I thought you only could get to level 200 O.o

And at 200 i don't think you will be training at pigs lol.

If you could make a legend on each number or something i would love it =]


I said that the numbers were the total damage you do. Read it again o.o




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